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Got a message from Jack stating thta the ruptured accumulator was on an art piece on the playa not an art car. Caused by fire impingement on a former fire extinguisher cyclinder 3x12 inches in size. No injuries. Burn on...carefully.
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 11:29 AMmore details please.
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 5:40 PMI saw the ripped tank on display at a flame effects workshop. It was formerly a fire extinguisher tank, well-rated for normal accumulator pressure. Apparently, the problem was that the accumulator and valve were mounted in a raised position near the output nozzle of the device, too close to the pilot flame. Strong winds caused the pilot flame to lick downward towards the accumulator tank, raising the temperature (and therefore the pressure) of the cylinder to rupture levels.
The accumulator tank split open on the side in a most impressive manner, but my understanding is that because the effect was raised overhead, nobody was injured nearby. -
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Fri, July 10, 2009 - 10:49 PMUnless the fill for the accumulator was closed, heating would not result in an overpressure situation. It seems more likely that the flame impingement raised the temp. of the aluminum cylinder to the point where it lost structural strength. It would also seem prudent to plumb the pilot flame in after the shutoff, so that the pilot is extinguished if the valve is shut.
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Sun, July 12, 2009 - 5:31 PMUnless the fill for the accumulator was closed, heating would not result in an overpressure situation. It seems more likely that the flame impingement raised the temp. of the aluminum cylinder to the point where it lost structural strength. It would also seem prudent to plumb the pilot flame in after the shutoff, so that the pilot is extinguished if the valve is shut.
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 9:45 PMWhat kind of fire extinguisher was it? A CO2 or a large ABC type? -
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 2:43 PMFairly small... looked about the size of a 5 lb. dry-chem cylinder. No visible paint, so it may have been sanded if it actually originated as an extinguisher. At the time I didn't think to check if the metal was steel or aluminum. It looked quite charred. -
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 4:09 PMYeah, that's what I thought. Dry Chem extinguishers aren't rated for pressure. They hold the chemical AND a small rated tank of pressurized gas (like a big Whip-It container). When you activate them, the "whip-it" pops and discharges into the main tank. The pressure in the tank forces the chem to a pressure valve that opens when it's positive inside the tank (this keeps the dry chem inside until needed).
The only ones that Don't work this way are CO2 and halon. Both of those types are pressure containers from the ground up.
I kept my mouth shut during the "small accumulator' discussion because I figured "fire extinguisher" was short for "CO2, pressure rated extinguisher". But, I guess not. And therein lies the danger. People who /know/ what they're talking about using shorthand around people who don't. Eventually they cheap out, and someone gets hurt.
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Re: Ruptured Accumulator
Fri, August 7, 2009 - 10:00 AMAs I understood the discussion, it seemed that the pilot light had indeed licked down to the ALUMINUM accumulator tank, thereby raising the temp of the AL, weakening it, and causing it to fail. as we know, Al at temp has very little tensile strength. No one was hurt. But we did learn that Al tanks should be kept from possible puncture and heat......