Hey all -
So far, I've always been pretty lucky at pickig up vales from ebay, surplus stores and industrial surplus stores.
I've had really good experiences with Burket DC valves. In particular the 6013 direct and 6213 pilot.
But I'm working on a much bigger piece this year, and I want bigger, fast valves. Burkert DC pilot operated valves don't seem to have quite the speed(200 CPM ish) for the CV facotrs I'm looking for (as much as possible) And I need alot of them, so I need to order them as I don't think I will get lucky and find them in the quantities and uniformity I need.
McMaster has some "Brass sure fit" but their max PSI if 60 - I need to be about 100.
I've been told some good things about ASCO red hat valves. I started to research them today, but there are alot of valves.
What I am asking -
Does anyone have a good ASCO valve they can recommend? 100PSI, about 100CPM minimum (200 preferred) CV as large as possible. DC greatly preferred, but AC looks like it will be neccessary.
Help?
So far, I've always been pretty lucky at pickig up vales from ebay, surplus stores and industrial surplus stores.
I've had really good experiences with Burket DC valves. In particular the 6013 direct and 6213 pilot.
But I'm working on a much bigger piece this year, and I want bigger, fast valves. Burkert DC pilot operated valves don't seem to have quite the speed(200 CPM ish) for the CV facotrs I'm looking for (as much as possible) And I need alot of them, so I need to order them as I don't think I will get lucky and find them in the quantities and uniformity I need.
McMaster has some "Brass sure fit" but their max PSI if 60 - I need to be about 100.
I've been told some good things about ASCO red hat valves. I started to research them today, but there are alot of valves.
What I am asking -
Does anyone have a good ASCO valve they can recommend? 100PSI, about 100CPM minimum (200 preferred) CV as large as possible. DC greatly preferred, but AC looks like it will be neccessary.
Help?
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Sat, March 29, 2008 - 8:10 AM100 - 200 CPM ?? Is this cycles per minute?? something like 120CPM is 500 millisecond total cycle duration, turn on time, open time, closing time, then closed time...might freaking fast.
What pipe size? What size orifice does a valve feed? Any idea of BTU/hour at an orifice.....may be a mute point because only combustion valves are rated in BTUH and are waaaay too slow and too low of pressure.
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Re: Solenoid part numbers
Sat, March 29, 2008 - 9:59 AMCPM is cycles per minute. The valves I have now run pretty fast (1000 CPM I believe) but in use, never faster than about 300 (5 hits a second). I need about 200 minimum.
Pipe size doesn;t matter, sine the limiting factor is the Cv of the valve. I'll buy whatever pipe fits the valve.
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Re: Solenoid part numbers
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 6:41 PMLook at STC valves:
stcvalve.com/Process%20Valve.htm
partway down the page is NC valves 2W series. no time spec, but further down is 2WO series Normally Open' with 20 ms response times, CV as large as 48, with lots of seal type options, also DC coils. -
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Re: Solenoid part numbers
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 10:20 AMthese look awesome....
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Re: Solenoid part numbers
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 1:01 PMASCO makes 24 volt DC and 120/240 AC solenoid valves with brass housings. One thing to be sure of is that they are "NC" or Normally Closed when de-energized. The diameter of the orifices will not affect cycle response times too much depending on the pressure you're running and if you're running liquid or gas. Some of the ASCO valves have a 5 psi minimum operating pressure. I have an ASCO catalog somewhere, I just don't know where it is at the moment.
If you are going to do a calliope or something that requires variable input smaller is probably better. Check into "process control valves". There exists milled steel blocks of solenoid valves in series that are used to do mundane things like inject just the right amount of this chemical or that into a mixture. The main thing is to be sure that they're rated for your fuel type. Most process control valve banks have extremely rapid cycle timing since they are used in everything from pharmacuticals or photographic film manufacuring, to fuel additives in big refineries. If you get a "bank" that may reduce your project cost.